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Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

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Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde irinel venczel » 15 Ian 2015, 18:06

Eu personal o fac pe cea simpla, dar inainte de a muta larva pun o picatura de laptisor luat din comert in fundul cupulei. Sunt curios, alti colegi apicultori ce metode practica ? Ustensile folosite pentru ridicarea larvelor, diverse moduri de dat la crescut..... poate cine stie !

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 15 Ian 2015, 19:19

Folosim tot transvazare simpla, la fel procedam cu laptisorul de matca, numai ca il producem noi (la 72 de crescatori si cateva mii de larve ne-ar trebui un furnizor serios :lol: ). Ustensila de transvazat preferata este acul de transvazat de la Swienty, metoda de crestere am updatat-o anul trecut si este cam asa: intr-o roinita punem doua rame pline cu miere si pastura, apoi decupam din fiecare la cativa centimetri de leatul de sus o fasie din ceara de aproximativ 20 cm lungime pe 7-8 cm latime si adancime pana la foita de ceara artificiala, dupa care scuturam albina de pe 3-4 rame cu larve tinere. Acest prim pas se face dimineata, dupa ce a iesit culegatoarea. Lasam roinita deschisa o ora pentru ca daca exista albina inutila (batrana) sa plece si apoi deplasam roinitele la centrul in care se realizeaza transvazarea. Seara se face transvazarea si botcutele se lipesc direct de cele doua rame (in portiunea decupata), maxim 30 per roinita. A doua zi, cele doua rame cu botci pornite impreuna cu albina de pe ele se introduc in finisori de genul celor ce pot fi vazuti pe site: matca si albine jos, puiet si albina doica sus, separare cu gratie Hanneman. Botcile se introduc sus cu tot cu rame. Am fost foarte multumiti, avantajele sunt numeroase atat logistic, cat mai ales de calitate si rezultatele excelente. Nu stiu daca am reusit sa ma fac inteles, e mult mai greu de explicat decat de facut, mai ales fara imagini. :D . La inceputul sezonului o sa postam imagini detaliate.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde gheorghe cristian » 21 Feb 2015, 20:44

Adăugând laptisor in cupula cumparat sau produs propriu tot un fel de dubla tranzvazare este numai ca nu astepti ca albinele sa ia in lucru sa puna laptisor ca dupa aceia sa scoti larva si sa o inlocuiesti cu alta parerea mea poate gresesc

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 21 Feb 2015, 20:57

Cam asa, numai ca laptisorul folosit la transvazarea simpla este diluat cu apa. Plus ca este mai putin decat in cazul dublei transvazari. Rezultatele sunt identice, am testat ambele variante. Mult mai important este ce transvazezi, simpla sau dubla transvazare nu influenteaza rezultatul final. Este doar o chestiune de optiune.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde irinel venczel » 21 Feb 2015, 21:10

Cu cea dubla mai pierzi doua zile si ceva din timpul tau, rezultatul e acelasi, conteaza ce transvazezi si sa nu uiti sa stimulezi...

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde Pierre » 23 Feb 2015, 16:52

O mica intrebare in legatura cu laptisorul de matca din comert. Domnule Irinel dupa ce puneti laptisoul de matca albinele mai completeaza cu laptisor sau nu? Va intreb acest lucru deoarece nu stiu cat de bun e laptisorul de matca din comert. Eu am crezut ca cel mai bun e cel natural pe care il depun albinele dar intr-adevarl exista o perioada in care larva dupa trasfazare sta fara laptisor pana in momentul in care iau in primire larvele. Daca si cel din comert e la fel de bun sau daca diferenta nu e atat de mare in evolutia larvei am sa cumpar si eu si am sa pun pe fundul celulei inainte de a trasfaza.

Va multumesc anticipat pentru raspuns!

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde irinel venczel » 23 Feb 2015, 18:14

Bineinteles ca albinele vor completa numai cu laptisor de matca botca (de aceea cei ce fac dubla transvazare, scot primele larve dupa 2-3 zile si vin cu larve noi - tocmai pe premiza ca viitoarele matci vor beneficia de mai mult laptisor de matca). Stati linistit si cel din comert e bun ( vorbesc de cel comercializat la magazinele cu specific apicol, veti observa ca trebuie mentinut intr-un regim termic indicat pentru a evita alterarea). Atentie, nu puneti in exces, acea picatura mica pe fundul cupulei va ajuta pe dumnevoastra sa eliberati larva mai repede de pe varful lantetei (sau depinde ce folositi: ansa, pilker, pensula,etc.) fara a risca sa o intoarceti, va ajuta larva sa nu se usuce ( la inceput pana vi se " da mana " dureaza un pic mai mult ca timp ), iar albinutele orfanizate ce vor simti laptisorul, vor stii sigur ce au de facut.

Pt. recreere : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWsWUSCFIxY

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde Pierre » 24 Feb 2015, 15:57

Va Multumesc pentru raspuns.

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Re: Transvazare simpla sau dubla ?

Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 09 Dec 2015, 20:10

Buna seara. Daca va referiti la cat timp inainte de introducerea ramelor cu botci startate, atunci cu aproximtiv 24 de ore inainte. Apoi, la introducerea ramelor pulverizam 100 ml de sirop 1:1 cu ulei de lemongrass pentru a uniformiza mirosul.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)


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