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Stimulare cu polen

Tot ce tine de nutritia albinelor, hraniri stimulative si de completare, hraniri proteice si energetice, retete de turte proteice, administrare etc.
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Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde vasy » 26 Feb 2015, 20:06

Buna seara,

In primul rand doresc sa va felicit pentru tot ce faceti. Am gasit intamplator forumul si observ ca are foarte multa informatie de calitate si subiecte tratate foarte serios.
Acuma poate ma ajutati si pe mine cu urmatoarea dilema:
- am primit de la o sursa de incredere o cantitate apreciabila de polen congelat si as dori sa-l administrez albinelor.
Care ar putea sa fie cea mai buna metoda de administrare tinind cont de urmatoarele aspecte:
- albina si-a facut zborul de curatare,
- nu stau foarte bine ca si populatie dar am restrans la maxim cuiburile,
- doresc o dezvoltare cat mai buna inaintea culesurilor principale,

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Re: Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 26 Feb 2015, 20:51

Buna seara,

Multumesc pentru cuvintele frumoase.
Desi hranirea cu polen este cea mai bună varianta de hranire proteică (cu specificația ca polenul trebuie sa aiba o concentrație buna de proteina), trebuie sa spun ca din cauza numarului mare de familii nu facem hraniri cu polen, costurile ar fi prea mari. Deci experienta mea este mică in acest sens. Totusi, din ceea ce am vazut, cea mai buna varianta ar fi sa macinati polenul (atentie sa nu il incalziti prea mult in timpul procesului de macinare) si apoi sa adaugati pulberea in miere necristalizata. Amestecul rezultat se pune in pungute si se administrează pe rame in cantitati nu prea mari(intre 250 si 500 de grame in functie de puterea familiei). Daca există colegi care au variante mai bine ne pot ajuta.

Sper sa va fi fost de ajutor.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde vasy » 27 Feb 2015, 04:56

Va multumesc pentru sfat si as dori sa profit in continuare de amabilitatea d-voastra pentru cateva sugestii:

- eu am pus deja in pungi miere in amestem cu 7% polen si putin protofil dar, datorita faptului ca am albina putina in stupi acestia consuma destul de incet aceasta turta de 1kg miere cu ceva polen.
- in consecinta ma gandeam la o " bomba proteica" in care ingredientul de baza sa fie polenul congelat plus protofil, apicomplex, startovit si alte ingrediente pe care le folositi si d-voastra dar care sa fie consumata usor si rapid de catre albine.
- am vazut pe undeva apicultori facand mici cocoloase- din diverse ingrediente- cat o nuca pe care le puneau deasupra ramelor.

Astept cu interes parerile d-voastra.

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Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 27 Feb 2015, 06:27

Daca nu au luat turta cu miere si 7% polen, este putin probabil sa consume o turta cu o concentrație proteică mai mare. Cu cât o turta are mai mult zahar, cu atat este mai atractivă. Pe de alta parte, din turta facuta de dumneavoastra este nevoie sa consume o cantitate mai mare pentru a ingera un cantitate semnificativa de proteina. Opinia mea: lăsati-le sa consume turta pe care ati pus-o deja, in curand va ecloza puietul, familia va deveni mai puternica si va lua mult mai repede. Atunci puteti face o turta cu 50% polen si 50% miere plus celelalte ingrediente mentionate de dumneavoastra, mai putin Apicomplex si Startovit.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde vasy » 01 Mar 2015, 14:08

Buna ziua,

ieri am fost la stupina si am facut o turta in urmatoarea compozitie:

- o parte polen congelat, o parte drojdie de bere, o parte miere putin incalzita si amestecata cu protofil.

Am amestecat bine, am adaugat putina apa pana am obtinut o pasta de consistenta unui aluat si am facut niste ' chiflelute' pe care le-am asezat deasupra pe rame, am pus folia deasupra ramelor, peste folie o paturica iar in lateral le-am flacat cu cate o salteluta de papura - pentru caldura.
Tot ieri am observat ca albinutele mele aduceau ceva polen de culoare galbena.

Este pentru prima data cand incerc o hranire proteica si sunt curios daca merita efortul pana la urma...

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Re: Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde vasy » 07 Mar 2015, 19:56

.. si pentru ca sunt apicultor de week - end azi am fost la stupina si surpriza:
- toate cocoloasele mele au fost consumate mai putin doua unde nu aveam decat putine albine...

Asa ca um repetat operatiunea de saptamana trecuta dar am mai adaugat si sucul de la doua cepe in compozitia de mai sus.


Si acum intrebarea pentru d-voastra:

tinand cont ca stupii au in medie 3-4 intervale de albina iar catitati semnificative de polen din natura vor intra in stup abia peste 3- 4 saptamani cand inflooresc prunii ce cantitate de 'PROTEINA' considerati ca ar trebui sa le administrez in urmatoarele 30 de zile?

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Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 08 Mar 2015, 10:42

Salut,
Cate 250-300 de grame pe saptamana ar trebui sa fie suficient.
Succes!
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde vasy » 08 Mar 2015, 15:38

Va multuemsc pentru raspunsul scurt si concis.

Impulsionat de reteta d-voastra de pe blog m-am decis sa cumpar si eu acel izolat proteic de zer.Am accsesat site-ul recomandat si preturile mi-au parut un pic cam mari asa ca repede am dat fuga la un magazin de specialitate de la mine din oras unde m-ama desumflat de tot....Probabil ca stiti mult mai bine decat mine care este este pretul de cost pentru o astfel de turta proteica si de aceea va rog sa-mi confirmati daca chiar se merita o astel de ' investitie' si cam in ce conditii.

Ps:

excelent ultimul articol de pe blogul d-voastra.

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Re: Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 08 Mar 2015, 15:43

Multumesc pentru aprecieri.
Eu cred ca o astfel de investitie este absolut necesara pentru ca familiile sa ajunga la un nivel de dezvoltare optim in primavara si de asemenea să intre cu o populatie buna in toamna. Cea mai buna confirmare este ca stupii nostri primesc minim 2 kg de turta primăvara pana cand polenul din natură devine suficient. Daca familiile sunt puternice, investitia se amortizeaza inca de la culesul de rapita.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Stimulare cu polen

Mesajde vasy » 09 Mar 2015, 19:04

Uau!

M-ati convins!

Daca nu este un secret si fara sa faceti neaparat reclama mi-ati putea spune care ingrediente le cumparati de la farmaciile veterinare si care de la magazinele de specialitate.Am observat ca preturile difera mult de la un loc la altul si nu stiu daca se reflecta neaparat si in calitatea produsului...

Multumesc anticipat.


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