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LEGEA APICULTURII 383 / 2013 - propuneri modificari 2015

Scris: 01 Apr 2015, 17:25
de cmihaic
Am gasit azi pe site-ul ACA urmatoarea lista de propuneri :

LEGEA APICULTURII 383 / 2013 - propuneri modificari 2015



Partea interesanta este la articolul 6....nu o sa mai avem voie cu alte rase de albine la mai putin de 20km de o stupina de elita si 10km de o stupina de multiplicare....doar A.M. Carpatica....

Adica vecinul de la 1km....vinde matci....si se autorizeaza ca stupina de multiplicare.....eu trebuie sa imi iau stupii si sa plec din sat....
Nu inteleg de ce nu se organizeaza statii de imperechere undeva in munti ptr. asa ceva....

Re: LEGEA APICULTURII 383 / 2013 - propuneri modificari 2015

Scris: 01 Apr 2015, 19:09
de Radu Guțescu
Intr-adevăr, auzisem de această propunere si probabil ca se va si aproba. Este un subiect extrem de interesant care chiar merită dezvoltat. Sunt oarecum in tema pentru ca anul acesta vrem sa ne autorizam ca ferma de elita. In conditiile de autorizare se spunea ca trebuie sa existe izolare 20 km sau posibilitatea de inseminare artificială. Acum vad ca izolarea este asigurată prin legea apiculturii. Din păcate in Romania se pare ca nu se cunosc notiunile de rezervor si conservator genetic. Acestea ar putea rezolva problema perpetuării carpatinei, altfel o albina cu un potential imens si care sunt convins ca in urmatorii ani va deveni foarte utilizata in toata Europa, nu doar in Romania. Doar ca este nevoie de timp si munca pentru a obtine rezultatele dorite, plus personal calificat care sa lucreze pentru asta. Deci aceasta propunere vine prea devreme. Ordinea trebuia sa fie invers: mai întâi sa se obtina material genetic de mare calitate intr-un rezervor genetic, apoi acesta sa fie distribuit catre apicultori si dupa asta sa se impuna conditiile de prezervare a rasei. Asa s-a facut o propunere care nu va putea fi aplicata practic din foarte multe motive.

Re: LEGEA APICULTURII 383 / 2013 - propuneri modificari 2015

Scris: 01 Apr 2015, 19:43
de cmihaic
Din punctul meu de vedere nu este corect. Sa presupunem ca am o casuta la tara......o curte....si am X stupi......Daca in satul vecin la 5km distanta un apicultor se autorizeaza ca stupina de multiplicare.....eu trebuie sa vand proprietatea si sa ma mut ptr. ca albinele mele sunt Buckfast????......chiar nu e corect.

Cu ce il ajuta pe el ca eu ma mut....daca alt vecin are albine carpatine...dar care iti bat camasa in cuie pe spate...??? Ce ameliorare mai face el..???

Inteleg ca trebuie ameliorata rasa.....dar sa se organizeze parcuri naturale / statii de imperechere in locuri izolate.....cu zona de carantina....

Cum ar fi sa apara o stupina de elita la Ciucurova.....???

O lege in aceasta forma nu face decat sa deschida usa abuzurilor.

Re: LEGEA APICULTURII 383 / 2013 - propuneri modificari 2015

Scris: 02 Apr 2015, 16:32
de Radu Guțescu
Exact asta am spus si eu, in prima faza ar fi nevoie sa se amenajeze conservatoare si rezervoare genetice cu ajutorul carora sa se amelioreze rasa carpatina, astfel incat sa se poata obtine rezultate bune cu exemplarele crescute acolo, iar abia apoi sa se distribuie catre apicultori si sa existe pretentia utilizarii ei la scara larga.
In forma actuala, asa cum am scris, legea este neaplicabila, deci va spun sigur ca nu va avea efect. Sa ne gandim doar la urmatoarele aspecte: cine va controla stupinele pe o raza de 10, respectiv 20 km? Cum va demonstra ca matcile sunt sau nu carpatine? De unde se poate stii daca matcile carpatine se schimba cu alte rase la un interval scurt de timp, vor exista controale lunare? Mai mult, in Uniunea Europeana este permisa utilizarea tuturor raselor europene, deci cum vor putea obliga un apicultor sa utilizeze doar carpatina? Sa fim seriosi, este o noua propunere din seria hai sa aratam cat ne pasa de carpatina, dar de fapt nu facem nimic constructiv sa imbunatatim. Constrangerea nu este niciodata o solutie. Va asigur ca daca ati avea o carpatina mai buna decat Buckfast-ul sa spunem, ati trece benevol la carpatina, fara sa va constranga cineva, ceea ce oricum este imposibil.