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Turtele proteice

Tot ce tine de nutritia albinelor, hraniri stimulative si de completare, hraniri proteice si energetice, retete de turte proteice, administrare etc.
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Re: Turtele proteice

Mesajde Robert Paulo » 19 Ian 2015, 06:43

In reteta de pe blog ,intre ingredientele mentionate apare si scortisoara.Ce beneficii aduce aceasta in hrana albinelor?
Multumesc.

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Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 19 Ian 2015, 07:52

Scortisoara furnizeaza albinei substante asemanatoare celor din propolis. Practic se comporta ca un antimicrobian natural.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Turtele proteice

Mesajde gaby » 29 Ian 2015, 20:25

Buna seara.Dupa un calcul sumar turta este cam scumpa,la acest pret o gasim gata preparata si ambalata.

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Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 29 Ian 2015, 20:58

De acord cu dumneavoastra in legatura cu pretul. Numai ca va intreb, stiti ce contin "turtele proteice" gata ambalate din Romania? Am pus ghilimele pentru ca doar ironic acele mizerii pot fi numite turte proteice. Sa pui faina de soia intr-o hrana destinata albinelor arata cel putin nepasare, daca nu mai mult. Pe langa ingredientele de multe ori nocive, procentul de proteina nu depaseste 7-8% in mod real. Ceea ce inseamna risipa de bani. Ce sa mai vorbim despre respectarea profilului de aminoacizi necesari albinei. Vin cu urmatoarea intrebare: de ce oare turta de proteina considerata numarul 1 in lume costa 22 de lei pe kg transformand pretul ei din dolari? Pentru ca are 25% proteina si pentru ca are o formula care este adecvata nevoilor nutritionale ale albinei. Formula care este patentata si la care nu are acces decat firma producatoare. Asta in conditiile in care ei procura cantitati imense de materii prime, ceea ce inseamna ca au un pret foarte mic de achizitie. Va spun un lucru, pentru a face o turta care sa fie 100% potrivita albinei se ajunge la un cost de 28 lei pe kg la preturile din Romania. Nu foarte multi ar fi dispusi sa investeasca atat. Evident ca este o suma considerabila, dar pana la urma este o chestiune de optiune. Decat sa dai albinei un fel de fast-food daca imi permiteti comparatia, mai bine nu o hranesti deloc. Eu voi crede intotdeauna ca nu exista lucruri bune si ieftine dintr-un motiv simplu: ar trebui sa se vanda numai acelea, nu ar avea rost sa platesti mai mult pe un alt produs daca ambele ar face acelasi lucru.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Turtele proteice

Mesajde gaby » 30 Ian 2015, 16:27

Va multumesc pt. raspuns.Nu stiu ce contin acele turte si nici nu stiu ce contin izolatele proteice pentru ca nu am incredere in etichete.Sub eticheta poate sa fie orice, la noi totul este de vanzare si se vinde ceea ce cere clientul.Faina de soia ,lapte praf, lapte integral,oua etc. se foloseau in trecut si se folosesc si in prezent de toti apicultorii.In ultimii ani a aparut un produs nou numit feedbee despre care nu stiu multe. Nu vreau sa va contrazic in legatura cu nutritia albinelor pentru ca sunt mic in apicultura, dar dupa unii autori amestecurile de substituenti de polen trebuie sa asigure un nivel de proteina bruta de 5-10%, iar in cazul absentei totale a pasturii ,acest nivel creste la 10-15%.Despre nutritia albinelor se poate discuta foarte mult, pentru a simplifica reteta pe viitor vreau sa administrez polen recoltat de mine.

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Re: Turtele energetice

Mesajde alin75 » 03 Feb 2015, 13:26

Am tot incercat sa inteleg reteta postata de d-vs si am cateva intrebari:
1. rolul acid-ului citric atunci cand se mai adauga otet de mere;
2. stiu ca se pun 2g/kg de turta, iar d-vs recomandati 500g;
3. ulei porumb vs ulei floarea soarelui. Eu folosesc 50ml/kg turta.
4. Praf-ul de galbenus de ou + izolat proteic din soia poate fi inlocuit cu laptele praf pentru vitei?
Numai bine,
Alin

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Re: Turtele energetice

Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 03 Feb 2015, 19:09

Buna seara,

1. rolul acidului citric este de conservant si acidifiant. Otetul de mere nu este conservant, este doar acidifiant si ajuta la obtinerea unui PH necesar hranei albinei.
2. 2g acid citric/kg de turta se pun in turta energetica, sa nu facem o confuzie cu turta proteica. Daca prima este in mare parte sau chiar complet din zahar, turta proteica are mult mai multe componenente cu PH diferit si cu risc mare de deteriorare in conditiile in care nu sunt conservate cu ajutorul acidului citric.
3. Uleiul de porumb se foloseste pentru a furniza lipide albinelor. Are o structura diferita de cea a uleiului de floarea soarelui, in sensul ca difera procentul de grasimi polinesaturate. In turta se poate folosi si ulei de rapita alimentar, am preferat porumbul pentru ca este asemanator, dar mai usor de gasit.
4. Nu poate fi folosit lapte praf pentru vitei in locul galbenusului de ou sau izolatului proteic din soia din mai multe motive: procent diferit de proteina, profil de aminoacizi diferit, prezenta lactozei in laptele praf.

Sper sa va fi fost de ajutor.
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Radu
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Turtele proteice

Mesajde bogdan » 05 Feb 2015, 19:12

Din experienta dvs.care ar fi perioada propice de a începe hrănirea cu turtă proteică?

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Re: Turtele proteice

Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 06 Feb 2015, 12:29

Le administram in februarie dupa prima zi calda in care albinele pot iesi sa zboare.
“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Re: Turtele proteice

Mesajde irinel venczel » 06 Feb 2015, 19:00

La fel incep si eu cu turtele proteice. Dupa 10 februarie, in prima zi mai calda ( peste 10 - 12 grade cu + ), incep sa le dau saptamanal 250 - 500gr / fam. Pana anul trecut le faceam singur, dupa o reteta asemanatoare cu cea a lui Daniel Calmus, dar nu prea mai am timp liber si le dau turte produse de cei de la Apicris ( mi se par in regula, am folosit si anul trecut ). Recunosc ca sunt adeptul puietului scos mai de timpuriu, dar legat de turtele proteice - trebuie avut grija si date corelat cu restangerea cuiburilor spre primavara, astfel incat albina sa fie cat mai compacta, sa incalzeasca ramele de puiet.


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