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Forum Apicol | Apicultura de la pasiune la profesie. • Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !
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Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 17:01
de irinel venczel
Pana in 2014 am marcat matcile cu markere specifice anilor, dupa culori. Pt. 2015 am zis si eu sa ma mai modernizez si am comandat placute de opalit albastre pe un magazin on-line. Toate bune si frumoase pana le-am primit - placutele pe bucata lor de carton si o sticluta de adeziv intr-o punguta de plastic si atat. Nu tu prospect, nu tu nimic - deja ma vad in primavara cu butucii mei de degete alergand prin capul matcilor sa le pun placute de 2 mm. Rog pe cine a mai marcat asa sa-mi dea o dezlegare la problema, ca tare mi-e ca ma intorc la marker ! Multumesc !

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 17:15
de Radu Guțescu
Se pune un punct de lipici pe torax-ul matcii cu ajutorul betisorului din dotare :D , se desprinde o placuta de pe suportul de carton si se pune peste lipiciul deja aplicat, noi asa procedam, nu stiu daca e procedura standard. Atentie la un lucru care va poate provoca neplaceri atat dumneavostra, dar mai ales matcii: matca va incerca sa desprinda placuta cu ajutorul picioruselor si daca lipiciul nu este uscat, placuta va cadea. O situatie si mai neplacuta este aceea in care lipiciul iese de sub placuta(daca ati pus prea mult) sau ati pus lipici pe o suprafata mai mare decat placuta si atunci, in incercarea de a indeparta placuta, piciorusele matcii vor intra in contact cu lipiciul si vor ramane lipite acolo. Am patit asta o data si pentru ca matca nu mai mergea corect, albinele doreau sa o schimbe. Asa ca am preferat marcarea cu marker pentru cele imperecheate natural pentru a evita aceste riscuri si folosim placute doar la cele inseminate, care fiind anesteziate, se poate monta placuta fara riscuri. Sa nu se inteleaga ca nu se poate folosi si la cele imperecheate natural sau ca am ceva impotriva, doar ca trebuie mare atentie.

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 17:44
de irinel venczel
Ce betisor ? Pe carton nu erau decat placutele de la 1-99, nici macar cele 4 de rezerva nu erau, doar lipiciul si placutele le-am primit. Multumesc pt. exemplificare, dar cred ca.... unele vor avea soarta crunta...

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 17:51
de irinel venczel
Scuze, cred ca stresez, dar daca nu inteleg, intreb de 2 ori ! :P . Cat tebuie lasat lipiciul sa se usuce pana aplicati placuta ? Cu ce aplicati placutele? Folositi ceva special in care tineti matca pentru ca albinele sa nu indeparteze placuta neuscata?

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 17:56
de Radu Guțescu
Zgarciti producatori, nici macar un betisor nu au trimis. :lol: Ce sa mai vorbim de instructiuni... Sper macar ca nu ati dat prea mult pe ele, am vazut la unele magazine niste preturi de ai fi zis ca sunt din aur, noroc ca nu erau galbene ca ma derutau complet :lol:

Nu stresati deloc, chiar imi face placere sa comunic cu oameni inteligenti. Asa cum spuneam, betisorul este cheia. Chiar daca nu v-au trimis, puteti improviza dumneavoastra unul asemanator cu o scobitoare, dar sa nu fie ascutit, ci bont in varf. Suprafata de contact a varfului betisorului ar trebui sa fie un pic mai mica decat placuta, pentru a evita aplicarea lipiciului pe o suprafata prea mare. Dupa ce ati pus lipiciul pe matca, tot cu ajutorul betisorului ridicati si placuta. Pe el mai ramane putin lipici, il puneti pe suprafata de sus a placutei (cea cu numarul), il asezati pe torax, dupa care desprindeti cu grija betisorul, astfel incat placuta sa ramana pe matca. Tineti matca imobilizata pentru un minut sa spunem, sincer sa fiu nu am cronometrat, timp in care suflati usor, dupa care lipiciul ar trebui sa fie uscat. Uscarea dureaza cam cat in cazul markerului, poate putin mai mult.

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 18:03
de irinel venczel
34 ron placutele, 12 sau 14 ron adezivul, norocul meu ca pe acel magazin on-line am gasit un model simpatic de custi de introdus matca si-am luat 30 buc - alt fel decat cele de la Nicot sau cele unguresti - si adunate cu transportul = afacere paguboasa :oops: .
Sincer nici eu nu am inteles logica pretului, setul de 5 culori era 120 ron, nu-l aveau pe stoc, si mi-au trimis cred ca ce-a mai ramas...si fara BAT.

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 18:43
de Radu Guțescu
O rezolvati dumneavoastra cu betisorul, faceti unul mai bun decat v-ar fi trimis ei. Poate fi si din plastic, de genul celor de la acadele :D . Important este sa dobanditi indemanare in utilizarea kit-ului si dupa lucrurile devin simple.
Daca pot sa va intreb, ce fel de custi ati gasit? Ma gandesc ca poate au ceva avantaje din moment de v-au atras atentia.

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 19:44
de irinel venczel
Incerc sa incarc 2 fotografii, dar nu cred ma descurc... :? La fel am patit si cu avatarul, dar m-am lasat....

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 19:52
de Ovidiu Nicolae
Fotografiile atasate trebuie sa fie mai mici de 256kib, iar avatarul de dimensiuni 120x120 pixeli si maxim 15kib. Daca nu va descurcati cu redimensionarea mi le puteti trimite mie pe email la ovidiu.nicolae@apiexpert.ro. si o sa le fac eu.

Re: Marcarea matcilor cu placute de opalit !

Scris: 18 Ian 2015, 20:10
de Ovidiu Nicolae
V-am setat eu avatarul, multumim pentru pozele cu cusca. Le-am atasat mai jos:
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