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Primul pas in comunitatea ApiExpert il faci aici. In aceasta sectiune se vor prezenta membrii noi: cine sunt, de unde sunt, cati stupi au si cum au ajuns la apicultura.
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Cu respect

Mesajde stefan andrei » 19 Ian 2015, 17:02

Buna seara. Sunt nou pe forum, de aceea va urez multa sanatate tuturor apicultorilor si un an nou plin de realizari. Va rog sa ma primiti in rindul d-voastra inainte de a-mi cumpara primi stupi, totodata va cer si citeva sfaturi in legatura cu aceasta importanta achizitie pe care urmeza sa o fac. Am citit si tot auzit ca ar fii bine sa incepi cu citva stupi la inceput si cred ca este foarte adevarat dar am un prieten si in acelas timp un foarte bun om de incredere care vrea sa-mi vinda toata stupina, adica in jur de 100 de familii, in functie de cum o sa iasa acestea din iarna. Pretul este asa ca pentru un prieten, iar eu vrea sa fiu la rindu-mi corect, nu vreau sa profit. Deci dilema mea este:
1 Sa iau asa multi de la inceput, recunosc ca mie cam frica cu toate ca familia ma sustine, totusi imi sunt forte dragi.?
2 Care ar fi pretul corect [se vind cu lazi si caturi cu tot]?
3Dupa ce criterii sa ma iau daca o sa accept achizitia [ cu toate ca am mare incredere]?
4 Cit timp imi iau pentru ingrijire pe toata perioada anului, daca e posibil sa-mi detaliati pe luni?
Precizez faptu ca nu am mai avut albine, dar contact cu ele da, intepaturi si nu sunt alergic.
Astept cu nerabdare raspunsuri, sfaturi si nu numai, de la viitorii colegi :)
Va multumesc. Cu respect

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Re: Cu respect

Mesajde simi » 19 Ian 2015, 19:47

Si eu sunt incepator absolut ca tine,deci nu pot sa-ti dau niciun sfat in aceasta privinta.Oricum,ori esti foarte curajos,ori...hm...nu stiu cum sa zic.Mie mi-ar fi frica.Nu de munca,ci de lipsa de experienta.
Ma rog,din ce am citit prin muuuulte carti,cam cateva luni timp de 3 ore pe zi,pe langa net cu toate clipurile,blogurile,forumurile,postarile si ce mai are el,ni se recomanda sa incepem cu cativa stupi,3-5,poate un pic mai multi.Eu am ales sa incep cu 5 familii.Toti apicultorii experimentati ne atentioneaza ca banii investiti in albine,fara a avea experienta,se duc mai repede ca in cazinourile din Las Vegas.
Sunt lucruri atat de multe,teoretic cel putin ,practic nu am cum sa stiu,sunt lucruri pe care trebuie sa le intuiesti,sa le deduci,sa le prevezi cu mult timp inainte de a se intampla etc.incat fara experienta,doar cu cunostintele teoretice,e foarte greu.Eu sunt si pescar.La stilul spinning.A nu se intelege un ,,carator de scule,,cum ii numim noi pe cei care ies o data la 5 sambete cu bete si scule de bazar,made in vapor.Si mi-am dat seama ca o zi la pescuit valoreaza cat o saptamana pe forurile de specialitate sau,,lecturarea,,de carti,reviste.Sunt convins ca asa e si in apicultura.Fara practica e foarte greu.
Sunt colegi care te pot ajuta in alegerea ta,dar mie mi se pare un gest cam necugetat,sa nu spun nebunesc.Poate daca prietenul tau te poate ajuta,consilia o anumita perioada de timp...desi,frate,frate,dar branza e pe bani.Asta e deja un business in toata regula,asa ca ,eventual,pentru a nu pierde suma investita poti angaja pe cineva pana cand ,,furi,,macar putin din lucrul la stupi.Inca o data,subliniez,nu vreau sa te jignesc in niciun fel.Iti doresc sa faci alegerea buna si sa prosperi.
Admir curajul tau si,ca si tine,ii uram pe cei care,incercau sa-mi spuna ca nu e chiar usor.Acum stiu sigur ca nu e nici imposibil.
Si cred ca ar trebui sa vezi tipul de stupi,starea lor,locatia,acte,documente,o sa razi trebuie si de astea,materialul biologic si multe altele.

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Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 19 Ian 2015, 20:22

“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Mesajde stefan andrei » 20 Ian 2015, 15:05

Va multumesc. In primul rind as dorii sa fac citeva precizari. Nu sunt un adolescent aventurier oricit de nebunesc ar parea, vreau sa fac o apicultura de calitate chiar daca nu am o experienta in spate, nimeni nu a crescut invatat, asa ca la virsta mea[46] nu am nevoie de experiente care sa ma dezamageasca ulterior. Daca o sa fie necesar o sa platesc la inceput pe cineva cu experienta de la care sa si invat. In alta parte mi se sugera chiar ca cel care imi vinde stupii vrea sa scape de ei, din mai multe motive, pentru ca mai tirziu eu sa fiu dezamagit. Nu este adevarat, chiar mai exista si oameni, iar cel care mi-i va vinde este unul dintre ei. De citit am tot citit, iar in ce priveste calitatea albinelor nu pot sa spun prea multe, deoarece aceasta propunere a venit acum in perioada de iarna si nu am putut sa umblam la ele. In cea ce va priveste pe d-voastra d-ule Radu Gutescu, daca sunteti deacord, v-as propune sa incheiem o intelegere si anume: -d-voastra sa ma consiliati pe o anumita perioada, aceasta sa o stabilim de comun acord, iar eu, vizavi de necesitatile stupinei, sa cumpar de la d-voastra materialul biologic. Daca sunteti un "apiexpert'', si vreti cu adevarat sa realizam impreuna o stupina moderna de pe urma caruia sa avem satisfactii, acceptati aceasta provocare? Sunt foarte deschis si imi doresc impreuna cu familia sa ajungem la performanta de a avea o stupina moderna, cu albina sanatoasa, de cea mai buna calitate. Daca v-am stirnit oarece interes.. :)
[calitatea lazilor nu este o problema, eu lucrez momentan cu lemnul, asa ca.., timpul alocat la fel]
Multa sanatate

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Mesajde Radu Guțescu » 20 Ian 2015, 16:29

Va ajut cu mare placere fara sa existe conditionarea vreunei achizitii. Cum foarte multi colegi stiu deja, imi face placere sa ajut oameni care vor sa faca din apicultura o profesie. Puteti sa ne vizitati pentru a vedea la fata locului modul nostru de lucru, ne putem auzi la telefon in special dupa ora 19 si de asemenea puteti posta intrebarile dumneavoastra la Coltul incepatorului unde atat eu, cat si colegii de pe forum sunt sigur ca va vom oferi raspunsuri care sa va ajute. Departe de mine gandul sa va consider aventurier sau sa va descurajez, dimpotriva. Numai ca, cu riscul de a va supara, va spun ca este necesara o evaluare extrem de obiectiva a situatiei si de asemenea trebuiesc stabilite clar obiectivele propuse si mijloacele prin care acestea se pot atinge. Nu este imposibil, dar nici nu este floare la ureche. Aveti toata sustinerea si disponibilitatea din partea mea si spun inca o data, acest lucru nu este conditionat de absolut nici o obligatie de a achizitiona material biologic de la noi.

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“Exista ceva la albine care intotdeauna l-a captivat pe om. Extraordinarul lor simt al ordinii si al preciziei, abilitatea lor de a se adapta la orice sau oriunde, versatilitatea incredibila, acestea si multe alte caracteristici reprezinta o inepuizabila sursa de interes si incantare atat pentru apicultorul profesionist cu cei 2000 de stupi ai sai, dar si pentru cel amator cu cei cativa stupi ai sai din coltul gradinii“. - Karl Kehrle (Fratele Adam)

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Mesajde gheorghe cristian » 21 Feb 2015, 21:29

Dl stefan referitor la pret 40/50 lei rama referitor la lada depinde de tipul lăzi o lada veche mai mult de 80 lei nu cred că merită referitor daca sa le cumpărări sau nu numai dumneavoastra puteti opta daca le cumparat ca începător cititi mult si intrbati despre boli si tratamente in primul rand in rest albinele va vor invata restul ca timp de lucru la100 de familii undeva la24 de ore pe saptamana daca nu va deplasati la pastoral va spun din experienta proprie ca mai mult nu prea o sa aveti ce face la ele .Tratamente executate corect umblat cat mai rar in cuib si in rest ele stiu ce au de facut.fiti curajos si sa auzim numai de bine


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